Q: You’re at 292,000 now on the NOM, as released today. You mentioned some numbers about the third year of the working holiday visa. Do you know how to get down to 245, what the visa cuts will be in each individual class? Just when you’re doing this speech, the Prime Minister has a stubborn streak, as of last week he was telling cabinet colleagues that he didn’t want you to do this speech in this forum, so how did you change his mind? I respect you must be one of the ones who wrote it!
Tony Burke:
When it was published that I was not going to be giving this speech in this forum, the first time that I saw it having been published was a day after the Prime Minister and I had had a conversation confirming that I would be speaking here. So, it was a bit hard for me to go back and say, “I’m upset that you’re not agreeing to something,” that he had agreed to yesterday that journalists were saying he hadn’t.
The fact… Look, can I just say, I’m the Minister for Home Affairs.
If I were to spend my whole life dealing with stories that were written that were untrue, that’s all I’d spend my time doing. It’s the nature of the portfolio. But when it was published, I can only say the Prime Minister and I had already had a conversation confirming that I would be here.
Q: Do you know how much each visa class comes down by to reach the targets, or just on working holiday visas, do you have the numbers?
Burke:
These number in these materials that are being made available that go through it, but can I say all of it’s a little bit deceptive. When you’re dealing with something like visa hopping, it all deals with who is, in fact, on that pile at any point in time.
And the nature of once you stop one form of visa hopping, you get movement in different directions. The advice that we have statistically at the moment is that the most likely outcome is we are tracking at the moment to the numbers that are in the Budget of 245.
And as you’d see with today’s net overseas migration, we’ve actually tracked below, below the most recent Budget forecasts. The nature of this portfolio has always been we are dealing with some aspects of net overseas migration over which the Government does not, and never should, have control.
For example, part of net overseas migration is what happens with citizens going back and forth. Part of what happens with net overseas migration is effectively driven by the relative strength of the Australian economy compared to the other places expats would want to work, or the Australian economy compared to the New Zealand economy.
These are all issues where, to have the tools to be able to manage net overseas migration, where there are some parts of that number that are not, and should not be, within the direct control of the minister, you need other levers to make sure that you can manage it and still deliver something close to the number. This is because there’s been a change in public expectation. For most of my political life, net overseas migration has been viewed as a Budget forecast. Last couple of years, people have talked about it as a Budget target.
That is a very different way of looking at it. But given that we have the challenges we have with housing in Australia at the moment, I do think we need to be able to have these additional tools to make sure that what is published and forecast is reached.
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the resolve poll on monday showed that not even greens voters back the greens as the best party on immigration btw
Thanks Shoe. Always love your contributions.
i also help keep your average reader age below 70
Not sure your org is known for its youth, but OK :)
Where this is going to get real for people is in compliance. That is to be boosted and you’ll be seeing a lot of American, British and Europeans being taken into detention for overstaying visas. And that is not what people will expect. And it is also going to be a lot more brutal then what is being flagged.
If one overstays their visa in any of the places mentioned the consequences are pretty harsh so why should people expect Australia to be any different when coming here.
In order to be as polite as possible, I must be brief:
The current Australian government lack of any humanitarian response to the Israeli atrocities is a f**king disgrace.
The problem is that Lib/Lab are now so similar that all they have is bullshit to cover their inadequacies
I've been watching these developments with alarm since hearing the US president complain about other countries ripping off the US pharmaceutical industry. I knew they'd start to apply pressure and was afraid of the response. For once it wasn't a fold, but a neat sidestep worthy of Tamika Upton, NRLW Brisbane Broncos fullback.
I have epilepsy and require a specific drug to prevent seizures for the rest of my life. As you can imagine, this would affect me greatly if they succeed in destroying the PBS and I'm nowhere near alone.
Bravo Australian Government. Standing up for the little people is what you are there for.
What a pity the MSM doesn’t give people the facts instead of more and more opinion pieces, and what a pity journalists that cover press conferences such as the one Taylor has given don’t just say to him that is a load of rubbish you have just uttered. No wonder people are fed up with ignorance,lies and fantasy from politicians.
The NT specialist fees are higher than anywhere but the ACT? Interesting.
Scrap that, misread it
The fraud and overservicing will still continue then...not because of need but because they're veterans
If the Labor party had a Muslim cult equivalent to the Brethren, allegedly tail (a rather cutesy word for sounds like stalking) and heckle the Liberal leader during an election campaign, allegedly intimidate voters queuing at polling stations, Canavan would be saying very different things. It's their behaviour that is the problem. If they had acted within norms of campaigning, this would be a nonissue....of course, the price they pay for being isolationist and banning members from interacting with others except for when instructed to do so, is that they simply do not know what the norms are.
Canavan says: "Look, I think this is goes to a pattern of behaviour from the Labor Party that seems to have a problem with people of faith*, especially people of faith who involve themselves in politics,"
Their website states: "The Plymouth Brethren Christian Church does not make, and has never made, political donations and does not support political parties or individual candidates. Nor has the Plymouth Brethren Christian Church ever organised or coordinated any political volunteerism or donations of any type in any location." (Which I think we can all take with a grain of salt)
The issue is they abstain from voting due to religious beliefs; therefore, it stands to reason that they should abstain from being involved in politics IN ANY WAY.
Well, a religious organisation being hypocritical is hardly surprising. My concern is their behaviour at the last election. We should not normalise this behaviour.
With homemade strawberry jam on one slice and Vegemite on another - I'm not an animal!