A month later, one year after Christchurch, he appeared before Senate estimates, and what happened was instructive.
He was grilled by coalition government senators who were not asking about what ASIO was doing about the threat but, rather, objecting to the label of ‘right-wing extremist’. Let me quote then coalition senator Connie Fierravanti-Wells to Mr Burgess at Senate estimates. She said:
“‘Right’ is associated with conservatism in this country, and there are many people of conservative background who take exception to being tarred with the same brush”.
She went on to tell the director-general:
“So I think the time has come, Director-General, especially from you, to ensure that you are very careful with the terminology that you use …”
Labels sting, huh? Do we think we should be a bit more careful about how we throw labels around, or should we just ‘face uncomfortable truths’?
What happened after this was also instructive because, 12 months after that exchange, under a coalition government, ASIO determined it would no longer refer to right-wing extremism or Islamist terrorism. From that time forth, the terms ‘religiously motivated’ or ‘ideologically motivated’ terrorism would be used. That was under a coalition government, a move overseen by then minister for home affairs Peter Dutton, and former ministers of that government are now telling us to confront uncomfortable truths—members like the member for Canning, who previously declared it was ‘time for the Australian Muslim leadership to systematically and clearly make the case that Islam is a religion of peace’.
So let’s be clear then: when some coalition MPs advise us to face uncomfortable truths, are the only truths we confront the ones conservatives find comfortable to confront?
Not to be outdone, we had but last week coalition senator Andrew Bragg mused;… the Australian Muslim community has to take some responsibility for the behaviours we’ve seen exhibited over the last couple of decades.
He opined:
“The West has probably been too nice for its own good …
Perhaps he should have a chat about whether a Victorian imam and his wife thought it was nice that they were run off the road in Melbourne and attacked and had racist abuse and rubbish hurled at them. Or is it nice for Muslim Australian women to have their hijab torn off or be labelled, with an expletive, ‘terrorists’ or be spat at? Is it nice to see pigs’ heads in Muslim sections of cemeteries or impaled on the fences of places of worship? Maybe we should refer to any of the work undertaken by Action Against Islamophobia or the Islamophobia Register that tracks examples of what ‘nice’ looks like to many Muslim Australians on a near daily basis. Antisemitism, Islamophobia, racism across the board—all these behaviours should not be tolerated, full stop.
We should be appalled by all of these acts, not selectively concerned or occasionally responsive. Let me go to words expressed in this parliament to underscore that point.
In April 2019, then prime minister Scott Morrison said: “We must strive to see the ‘us’ in our national life and to celebrate it, an Australian ‘us’ of different faiths, of different ethnicities, of different ages, genders and sexualities, an Australian ‘us’ that rejects the hate, the blame and contempt that grip too much of modern debate”.
Those words are those I can stand by.
Disappointingly, those words are a far cry from the Scott Morrison of today, who wants to have practitioners of just one faith be singled out for registration and accreditation and for them to somehow prove their fidelity to our nation because the starting-point assumption is, ‘Until you do this, you might be suspect, deficient, not to be trusted.’
So much for the 2019 call for an Australian us that rejects the ‘blame and contempt’. What’s the end game here?
Once imams are accredited and their loyalty proven, do we get them to wear armbands? Are we more relaxed with that—replicating a more abominable chapter of world history? Once we start down the path of uncomfortable truths, we need to know exactly where we’re headed.
It’s worth noting that not one Australian was required to prove their fidelity to the nation post Christchurch, when a white supremacist Australian slaughtered 51 New Zealanders. No practitioner of the Christian faith was asked to do likewise after the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse.
And here’s the thing: nor should they. It’s a ridiculous and divisive notion, because we do not sheet home blame and responsibility to entire communities for the acts of extremist individuals.
Surely we can agree. Surely we can rally around that compelling logic, because dividing people and shoving them into dark corners to nurse fear and grievance is not the way we build and sustain a strong nation.
This is the crux of my call to parliament. In a time of fear and grief and anger, we all as parliamentarians have a critical role to play. Scapegoating, wielding a broad brush to tar—that stuff’s easy to do. That’s the political equivalent of instant gratification—Red Bull politicking: quick hit then a slump. I come back to the words delivered by a rabbi to me post Bondi: ‘We choose our hard.’
Jacinda Ardern chose her hard and showed the world how to build a better, cohesive, stronger nation in the aftermath of unimaginable grief.
That’s the task before us all—the hard and patient and vital work to bring people together at a time when Australians want and deserve calm, determined leadership from us all.
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Andrew Faith
Thu, 05.02.26
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Liberals and Nationals still fighting live.thepoint.com.au
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Sharsh
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Cath
Thu, 05.02.26
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Independents still asking about actual issues live.thepoint.com.au
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Michael Cowan
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Christopher Green
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Andrew Faith
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Richard Llewellyn
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Eira
Thu, 05.02.26
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The Point Live: Future of Coalition still up in the air, Labor facing internal 'discomfort' over Herzog visit. The final day of this week's sitting still has the focus on what is happening outside the chambers, with Sussan Ley and David Littleproud still scrapping over the Coalition's future, while Ed Husic... live.thepoint.com.au
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Gregory Shearman
Thu, 05.02.26
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John Devaney
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Speak up or shut up, that is the question … live.thepoint.com.au
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Richard Llewellyn
Thu, 05.02.26
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Andrew Faith
Thu, 05.02.26
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The Point Live: Future of Coalition still up in the air, Labor facing internal 'discomfort' over Herzog visit. The final day of this week's sitting still has the focus on what is happening outside the chambers, with Sussan Ley and David Littleproud still scrapping over the Coalition's future, while Ed Husic... live.thepoint.com.au
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Fiona
Thu, 05.02.26
08.37 AEDT

‘When the rules are silent, women are not usually considered’ live.thepoint.com.au
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How do you manfully defend people's rights?
It's getting to the stage where the only QT questions that seem to be in the interest of the Australian people are the ones asked by the Crossbench (excl Nats). Opposition questions are as predictable as Dixers.
Is there any way for the independents to get allocated all of the questions? Perhaps every time the (former) coalition asks a dumb/pointless question or a member gets kicked out, they lose a question and it is given to the independents.
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The one trick pony (x two):
1. Liberals question the impact of govt spending on inflation.
2. Nationals question the $275 reduction power prices from 5 years ago.
Any chance of a new tactic by either?
"Penny Wong says Australia is comfortable in its international legal obligations (which given we belong to the ICC would suggest we should attempt to arrest Herzog) and have still invited him (which is diplomatic speak for ‘we won’t attempt to arrest him’.)"
On what basis would Australia arrest Herzog on behalf of the ICC? The ICC hasn't issued an arrest warrant for Herzog.
From another blog: Leader of the Opposition in the Senate, Michaelia Cash, had a motion prepared to boot a bunch of Nationals from Senate committees.
Wow, looks like the LOTOINS doesn't want to reunite any time soon.
It would be informative for all of us if the Foreign Minister could point out where it is written in UN resolutions etc. on Human Rights, War Crimes, (oh, and adherence to nuclear non-proliferation) contain the exception: 'except for Israel'.
https://live.thepoint.com.au/?post=1eec1ef523 The Coalition is going out of their way to prove that they are captive to the fossil fuel lobby. Full disclosure: I drive an EV and I saved up for it and traded my other car for it and it is second hand and I love it! The whole idea that EVs are luxury vehicles is propaganda. Fossil fuel vehicles are dirty and polluting and yet subsidised. Go figure
I used to have respect for Foreign Minister Wong. After today's comments about the March for Palestine/Arrest Herzog planned rallies I have lost all respect for this minister. She again tied the Bondi terrorist attack to those marching against war crimes and genocide.
Again, no politician can explain why these two issues are related. It seems that the "Jewish community" is those that blindly support all the work of the Israeli government. There will be many Jews and Jewish organisations marching. The Jewish community is a "broad church" and a sizeable percentage are against the actions of the Israeli government. Are they considered "insensitive"?
I've fired off 2 emails this morning. One to the Foreign Minister and one to Julian Leeser for his comment that we don't arrest people coming to Australia as guests of the government. I pointed out that we do reject visas to people making Hate Speech and incitements to violence. Signing bombs and calling all Palestinians responsible for attacks on Israelis would seem to fit this criterion. I pointed out to Leeser that his own party helped pass the hate speech legislation that would criminalise such acts.
A pox on both their houses.
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The President of Israel official visit (and I stress the word "official" is so, so wrong on many levels. The U.N. Statements the horrific optics of Herzog signing warheads destined for Gaza. How the hell did this visit come about. Pardon my crudity but who's brain-fart idea was this?
The history of 'trade Agreements' has, I believe, never brought any advantage to Australia, in fact the reverse. The old adage used to be that any such Agreement meant ' They can sell us whatever they want at no extra cost and we can sell to them whatever they don't want to block.'
And - in times of financial stress (i.e. always..) if we entered an agreement to keep the cost of critical minerals high, in order to protect the profits of US manufacturers, we would be shooting ourselves in the foot. (Don't mention Marles - I did but I think I got away with it).
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Those of us on this blog can NEVER have enough Parliament! We're nerds and wonks and people who can't help staring at car crashes. We're all in good company. 😬
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