The member for Hinkler who is not Keith Pitt asks a very stupid question. One – do you think most Australians know or care what COP is? Two – do you think most Australians know or care what the National Security Committee is? Three – do you think most Australians knows or cares what Chris Bowen actually does?

Stupid.

My question is to the Minister for Climate Change and Energy. How many meetings of the National Security Committee of cabinet which deals with important energy security issues, does the minister, who works part-time, expect to miss while he’s overseas at his full-time job as president of COP negotiations?

Albanese takes this, as he says he is the head of the NSC:

It’s actually a breach of the law to talk about what happens at the National Security Committee.