David Littleproud gets the next non-government question and reminds us all while the Nationals are experiencing such drastic falls in membership.

My question is to the Prime Minister. There are less than five weeks left in 2025, when will Australian families receive your promised $275 eduction to their power bills?

Jim Chalmers, who is representing Chris Bowen (who is in Brazil for Cop) takes this and says:

Thank you, Mr Speaker and thanks to the Leader of The Nationals for his question. As we have made it really clear, Mr Speaker, and relevant experts, the Prime Minister read a few out of them a moment ago and they have made it clear, Australia’s best chance to put downward pressure on electricity prices is from introducing cleaner, cheaper, more renewable, more reliable energy sources. Mr Speaker, that never used to be controversial. For a long time it was not an especially controversial proposition, even those opposite held that view, Mr Speaker. I am asked that question by the Leader of The Nationals. The Leader of The Nationals said once before when he had a more sensible position on this, “It is a good thing that renewables are coming on, the disruptions happening with technology moving towards renewable energy particularly in storage for baseload is exciting and think it is a good thing’ and he also said “Economics will win out in the end and if baseload power can be stored in particular that is an exciting thing for the environment and for everyone’s hip pocket”, Speaker and he says “In my own electorate people are self-sustaining through solar, there is a reality that that kind of disruption is happening and that is exciting for the environment and for the hip pocket”, Mr Speaker.

Milton Dick says he wants to hear from the member for Page, which is a lie because no one wants to really hear from Kevin Hogan. He has a point of order that is not a point of order and we move on.

Chalmers:

I am asked about power bills and I am answering a question about power bills reminding the house at the Leader of The Nationals once had a more sensible position on this. The upward pressure on electricity prices in our grid Mr Speaker does not come from a new, cleaner, cheaper, renewable reliable energy, it comes from the legacy of 22 failed energy policies which saw four gigawatts of energy come out of the Greens.

Then everyone is yelling. Dick tells them to shut it and Chalmers continues, but he seems very over it all.